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The Third M?n Studio Exec
Joined: 09 Sep 2003 Posts: 575 Location: Chasing Stef around post-war Vienna
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Posted: 02.12.2004 7:45 pm Post subject: Finest cinematography? |
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Black and White
Citizen Kane
The Seventh Seal
Touch of Evil
Psycho
Raging Bull
L'Avventura
Rashomon
The Third Man
L'Atalante
Colour
Vertigo
Stalker
Lawrence of Arabia
Dances With Wolves
The Lord of the Rings
Three Colours: Blue
Sleepy Hollow
Apocalypse Now
North by Northwest
Rear Window
The Straight Story
There are loads more, but either I have not seen them or I simply can't remember them -- these are just off the top of my head. What are your picks? Discuss. |
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the night watchman Studio Exec
Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 1373 Location: Dark, run-down shack by the graveyard.
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Posted: 02.12.2004 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Didn't we do something like this before? Well, off the top of my head the ones that made me lean forward in my seat and say "Holy crap!":
Crash
Blade Runner
Eraserhead
Apocalypse Now
Psycho
Pi
Barton Fink
The Piano
Touch of Evil
Curse of the Cat People
The Last of the Mohicans
8 1/2
Roma
Minority Report
Frankenstein/Bride of Frankenstein
Vampyr
The Third Man
Here's some others in which the photography cannot be parsed easily from the special effects:
Dark City
The Matrix
The Lord of the Rings trilogy _________________ "If you're talking about censorship, and what things should be shown and what things shouldn't be shown, I've said that as an artist you have no social responsibility whatsoever."
-David Cronenberg |
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beltmann Studio Exec
Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 2341 Location: West Bend, WI
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Posted: 02.13.2004 2:01 am Post subject: |
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I'm more interested in discussing what we mean by "good" cinematography. How do we arrive at that distinction? How are form and content balanced; how do we weigh subject matter against pure technique? To what degree does form and content influence one another? Is the cinematography of Lawrence of Arabia "great" because it is pictorially astonishing, psychologically evocative, or technically challenging? Can we weigh those against one another?
Dissect the equation.
Eric |
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the night watchman Studio Exec
Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 1373 Location: Dark, run-down shack by the graveyard.
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Posted: 02.13.2004 2:10 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, thanks to MTV, we live in a time when nearly all movies are photographed beautifully. Heck, even the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake looked great. But I'd suggest that great cinematography uses style to aid narrative. Does TCM 2003's flash help to tell the story? I don't think so. That said, I would stick with both my list and Mr. Lime's as examples of great cinematography. _________________ "If you're talking about censorship, and what things should be shown and what things shouldn't be shown, I've said that as an artist you have no social responsibility whatsoever."
-David Cronenberg |
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beltmann Studio Exec
Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 2341 Location: West Bend, WI
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Posted: 02.13.2004 2:38 am Post subject: |
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the night watchman wrote: | But I'd suggest that great cinematography uses style to aid narrative. |
Of course I agree. It's rare that a major commercial release isn't slick, pretty, perfectly shot and perfectly edited. But technical mastery isn't the same thing as great art. Off the top of my head, I remember being impressed recently by Requiem for a Dream, Master and Commander, Far from Heaven, The Son, Truman Show, Tully, The Pianist, Hero, Catch Me If You Can, Pistol Opera, COnfessions of a Dangerous Mind and Auto Focus.
Eric |
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Kenji Key Grip
Joined: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 29
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Posted: 12.11.2004 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Sansho the Bailiff
Maborosi
L'Avventura
Mirror
8 1/2
Citizen Kane
The Sheltering Sky
Night of the Hunter
Uzak
L'Atalante
Ugetsu Monogatari
Miss Oyu
Persona
The Conformist
The Searchers
Sunrise
Black Narcissus
Alexander Nevsky
The Double Life of Veronique |
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klem Grip
Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 5
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Posted: 02.11.2005 2:04 am Post subject: |
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Umm, I'm not just mentioning this cause it won an award for it, but how could anyone forget Braveheart?
Braveheart
And I totally agree that Dark City sets its own standard too. Love that movie.
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Chain Smoker Grip
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 15
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Posted: 02.15.2005 6:37 am Post subject: |
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Barry Lyndon. |
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a35mmlife Grip
Joined: 06 May 2005 Posts: 20
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Posted: 05.20.2005 7:21 pm Post subject: the shooters |
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The Straight Story was breathtaking... good call
Hudsucker Proxy
The Shining
The English Patient
Repulsion
Happy Together
Blade Runner
The Insider
7 Years in Tibet
Chung King Express
Strangers on A Train
Really, anything and everything Chris Doyle should be on that list |
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uscfilmgirly83 Grip
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 1 Location: oc
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Posted: 06.10.2005 7:55 pm Post subject: apocalypse now |
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stunning movie. beautiful cinematography. has anyone seen the hyped up sin city? how was that? _________________ ---if peeing in your pants is cool, then consider me miles davis---- |
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xAndyx Director
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 207 Location: Platteville, WI
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Posted: 06.14.2005 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Mixed reveiws were made about the film here, mainly negative. It was an amazing movie visually but fell short in most other aspects. _________________ One day you will look behind you and you will see we three, and on that day, you will repent, and we will send you to whatever god you wish.
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a35mmlife Grip
Joined: 06 May 2005 Posts: 20
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Posted: 06.15.2005 12:19 am Post subject: Re: the shooters |
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a35mmlife wrote: | The Straight Story was breathtaking... good call
Hudsucker Proxy
The Shining
The English Patient
Repulsion
Happy Together
Blade Runner
The Insider
7 Years in Tibet
Chung King Express
Strangers on A Train
Really, anything and everything Chris Doyle should be on that list |
i just want to add more to my list__
The Straight Story
Even Cowgirls Get The Blues
The Killing of a Chinese Bookie
3 Kings |
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Michael Scrutchin Studio President
Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 832 Location: Pearland, TX
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Posted: 07.12.2005 1:32 am Post subject: |
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Kenji mentioned it, but having just viewed it I gotta give it props...
The Conformist. Vittorio Storaro's cinematography is amazing -- an astonishing use of light, shadow, and color. _________________ Michael Scrutchin
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beltmann Studio Exec
Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 2341 Location: West Bend, WI
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Posted: 07.12.2005 1:53 am Post subject: |
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Michael B. Scrutchin wrote: | Kenji mentioned it, but having just viewed it I gotta give it props...
The Conformist. Vittorio Storaro's cinematography is amazing -- an astonishing use of light, shadow, and color. |
Let me guess: You taped it from TCM over the weekend, like I did? I had been looking for a copy of that for 15 years, and never saw it on VHS nor DVD. Is there an upcoming release planned? (My standalone DVD recorder takes such a fine digital image from Turner that I'm perfectly content with the copy I now have--except for the English dubbing.)
I actually started watching it this afternoon, but only managed to get 30 minutes in before The Spawn needed my attention. I'm gonna try to finish it tomorrow morning.
Eric _________________ "When I was in Barcelona they showed pornography on regular television. I'm assuming it's the same way in Mexico since they also speak Spanish." - IMDb user comment |
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Michael Scrutchin Studio President
Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 832 Location: Pearland, TX
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Posted: 07.12.2005 2:16 am Post subject: |
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beltmann wrote: | Let me guess: You taped it from TCM over the weekend, like I did? |
Yup.
Quote: | Is there an upcoming release planned? |
Paramount still owns the rights, so it's up to them, but I haven't heard anything.
Quote: | (My standalone DVD recorder takes such a fine digital image from Turner that I'm perfectly content with the copy I now have--except for the English dubbing.) |
Yeah, the English dubbing was kinda bothersome, but the Italian-language version would be dubbed, too, right? Most Italian films of the time were shot silent and later dubbed into different languages for different markets. Perhaps the Italian-dubbed version would be better, though, since most of the actors would be voicing themselves -- but, still, some of the Italian dubbing on Fellini pictures tends to bug me. _________________ Michael Scrutchin
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