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the night watchman
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Jim Harper
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Joined: 29 Feb 2004
Posts: 226
Location: Totnes, Devon, UK
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| Posted: 02.29.2004 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: Film Rating & Discussion |
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Here's my ratings, just to state my position for the record...
8 1/2 n/a
The 25th Hour n/a
Adaptation n/a
Aliens pro
The Apartment n/a
Apocalypse Now PRO
L'Avventura n/a
Batman Returns con
Battle Royale PRO
The Bicycle Thief n/a
Big Fish n/a
Brief Encounter hmm
Chinatown hmm
City Lights n/a
Commando hmm
The Conversation n/a
Donnie Darko PRO
Do the Right Thing hmm
Dressed to Kill pro
Duck Soup n/a
The Elephant Man pro
The Evil Dead pro
The Evil Dead II PRO
The Fast and the Furious CON
Fight Club con
Forrest Gump CON
Gangs of New York n/a
Gerry n/a
The Goonies con
The Gospel According to St Matthew n/a
Halloween II pro
It's a Wonderful Life n/a
Kids hmm
Kill baby, Kill! n/a
Last Action Hero hmm
Lawrence of Arabia pro
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen hmm:
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring pro
Lost Highway hmm
The Magnificent Ambersons n/a
The Man With The Golden Gun hmm
The Matrix con
Monsters Inc. hmm
Mulholland Dr. pro
A Night at the Opera n/a
Nosferatu (1922) PRO
Operation Intercept n/a
Pi n/a
Punch-Drunk Love n/a
Raiders of the Lost Ark hmm
Raging Bull n/a
Rashomon n/a
Red River n/a
Reservoir Dogs hmm
The Return of the King n/a
Robocop pro
A Short Film About Killing n/a
Shrek pro
Signs hmm
Silence of the Lambs PRO
The Sixth Sense con
Sleepy Hollow pro
Solaris (2002) n/a
Stalker n/a
Star Wars: A New Hope hmm
The Straight Story n/a
Torque n/a
Touch of Evil n/a
Unbreakable pro
Underground n/a
The Usual Suspects pro
Vertigo pro
Week-End n/a
Who Framed Roger Rabbit? con
Wild Strawberries n/a
xXx con |
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The Third M?n
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Joined: 09 Sep 2003
Posts: 575
Location: Chasing Stef around post-war Vienna
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| Posted: 03.06.2004 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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| beltmann wrote: | L'Atalante - PRO - one of my favorite pictures all-time
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I'm actually dying to see this... what's so great about it? |
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beltmann
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Posts: 2341
Location: West Bend, WI
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| Posted: 03.11.2004 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| The Third M?n wrote: | | I am astounded. Seriously Eric, are you telling me you haven't seen this gem of a film, with two of the finest Britsh actors of all time, Laurence Olivier and Michael Caine? Sleuth is a classic cat-and-mouse thriller, with a twist at the beginning, middle and end. It's a masterpiece and one of my all-time favourites. See it and chime in later to tell me how brilliant it was. |
The first 2 discs Netflix sent me were so scratched they wouldn't play. But the third arrived today in nearly pristine condition. Excellent, excellent... thanks for the recommendation. I half hoped the dialogue wouldn't actually mention Olivier's impotence--to me, that metaphor was made very clear throughout the entire picture--but otherwise the dialogue is the movie's best quality. I absolutely adored listening to these smart, clever, sophisticated lines coming from these two great actors. I was particularly interested in the class warfare theme, and both actors brilliantly convey the mutual contempt the classes have for each other. One question: When the Inspector first arrives, are we supposed to be sharing Olivier's viewpoint, and not realize that's Caine in costume? Are we supposed to be shocked when he tears off the mask? If so, it didn't work at all... I recognized him immediately. Anyway, marvelous picture: pro, maybe PRO.
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the night watchman
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| Posted: 03.11.2004 3:13 am Post subject: |
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| beltmann wrote: | | One question: When the Inspector first arrives, are we supposed to be sharing Olivier's viewpoint, and not realize that's Caine in costume? Are we supposed to be shocked when he tears off the mask? If so, it didn't work at all... I recognized him immediately. |
Yes, I think so. I saw the stage play when I was but a lad, and I remember the audience gasping at the twist. I suspect the audience's reaction to the film was probably similar. It's probably something that worked better back when the film was first released.
Along a similar line: In Cronenberg's M. Butterfly I believe we the audience are intended to realized Song's sex long before Gallimard, a tactic, from what I understand, that is far different from the play.
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beltmann
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Location: West Bend, WI
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| Posted: 03.11.2004 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| the night watchman wrote: | | Along a similar line: In Cronenberg's M. Butterfly |
I never saw the stage version--and I haven't seen the film since it was in theaters--but as I understand it, the film is substantially different. Besides, there's no hiding John Lone's five-o'clock-shadow. 
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the night watchman
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| Posted: 03.11.2004 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| beltmann wrote: | | Besides, there's no hiding John Lone's five-o'clock-shadow. |
No, there isn't. I haven't seen the stage version either, but I find Cronenberg's portrait of denial more interesting than a surprise penis, a la Crying Game.
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beltmann
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| Posted: 03.11.2004 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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LOL. And I agree. I'm not a big fan of the movie, but in that respect it is moderately interesting. (I'm not a huge fan of Crying Game, either.)
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Fred C. Dobbs
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Joined: 11 Mar 2004
Posts: 201
Location: New York
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| Posted: 03.14.2004 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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From your list:
8 1/2: pro
Aliens: pro
Apocalypse Now: pro
Batman Returns: pro
Chinatown: PRO
City Lights: pro
Do the Right Thing: PRO
Duck Soup: pro
The Elephant Man: pro
The Evil Dead: hmm
The Evil Dead II: con
The Fast and the Furious: con
Fight Club: con
Forrest Gump: hmm
Gangs of New York: PRO
The Goonies: hmm
Halloween II: hmm
It's a Wonderful Life: pro
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring: pro
The Man With The Golden Gun: pro
The Matrix: con
Mulholland Dr.: PRO
A Night at the Opera: PRO
Nosferatu (1922): pro
Punch-Drunk Love: PRO
Raiders of the Lost Ark: pro
Raging Bull: PRO
Reservoir Dogs: pro
The Return of the King: pro
Shrek: hmm
Signs: con
Silence of the Lambs: PRO
The Sixth Sense: pro
Sleepy Hollow: pro
Star Wars: A New Hope: hmm
Touch of Evil: PRO
Unbreakable: pro
The Usual Suspects: hmm
Vertigo: pro
Week-End: con
Who Framed Roger Rabbit?: hmm
Wild Strawberries: PRO
xXx: con
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