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The Third M?n Studio Exec
Joined: 09 Sep 2003 Posts: 575 Location: Chasing Stef around post-war Vienna
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Posted: 09.21.2003 4:38 pm Post subject: Last movie you bought? |
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On DVD, VHS or even BETA, I don't care. What's the last movie you purchased from Amazon.com, Blockbuster, HMV etc? |
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Danny Baldwin Studio Exec
Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 1354 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: 09.21.2003 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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The Two Towers _________________ Danny Baldwin
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beltmann Studio Exec
Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 2341 Location: West Bend, WI
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Posted: 09.21.2003 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Tom Tykwer's Heaven, on DVD. Haven't watched it yet.
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The Third M?n Studio Exec
Joined: 09 Sep 2003 Posts: 575 Location: Chasing Stef around post-war Vienna
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Posted: 09.21.2003 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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I just ordered Suspiria and L'Avventura, both on DVD. Has anyone seen them?
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matt header Studio Exec
Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 623 Location: Milwaukee, WI
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Posted: 09.21.2003 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Suspiria is one of my favorite horror movies - nonsensical, but it's astonishing the way that Dario Argento makes horror glow, pulse, and pour out of the screen. That opening murder is really tough to take, also. (Too bad about the dubbing.)
The last one I bought was a Cut Chemist / DJ Shadow performance movie called "Freeze"; the last actual "movie" (it's been a while) would be "Punch-Drunk Love." |
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the night watchman Studio Exec
Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 1373 Location: Dark, run-down shack by the graveyard.
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Posted: 09.21.2003 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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The Brood and The Howling SE. _________________ "If you're talking about censorship, and what things should be shown and what things shouldn't be shown, I've said that as an artist you have no social responsibility whatsoever."
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The Third M?n Studio Exec
Joined: 09 Sep 2003 Posts: 575 Location: Chasing Stef around post-war Vienna
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Posted: 09.22.2003 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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The Third M?n wrote: | I just ordered Suspiria and L'Avventura, both on DVD. Has anyone seen them? |
No? Like I once said, "I hate quoting myself". |
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the night watchman Studio Exec
Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 1373 Location: Dark, run-down shack by the graveyard.
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Posted: 09.22.2003 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Matt reported he's seen it, two or three posts up. I've seen it too, actually; I just missed your question.
Susperia, to me, is sort of like a cross between a Nancy Drew mystery and a giallo with witchcraft mixed in. I like it, but there is an awful lot of contrivence in the narrative. I know you're not supposed to ask questions like, "What is razor wire doing in a sunken room in a dance school?" when watching an Argento movie, but there are so many goofy moments like this it's distracting. I guess the problem is the mystery plot doesn't mix well with nonsensical bits, making the illogic stick out like a sore thumb. Personally, I like Inferno better, because Argento throws logic, character motivation, and plot completely out the window altogether, making making everything that happens, no matter how bizarre, easier to accept. _________________ "If you're talking about censorship, and what things should be shown and what things shouldn't be shown, I've said that as an artist you have no social responsibility whatsoever."
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The Third M?n Studio Exec
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Posted: 09.22.2003 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Are you basically saying that the lack of coherence and explanation may prove a bit frustrating for some viewers? |
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Michael Scrutchin Studio President
Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 832 Location: Pearland, TX
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Posted: 09.22.2003 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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The Third M?n wrote: | Are you basically saying that the lack of coherence and explanation may prove a bit frustrating for some viewers? |
I've only seen a handful of Argento films, but they're clearly not movies anyone would watch for masterful writing or storytelling. With Argento, as with the films of Mario Bava, it's all about the style and atmosphere, and I have no problem with that. In fact, I love Suspiria because it's one of those horror films, like Lynch's Lost Highway or the first two films by Dante Tomaselli, that genuinely feels like a nightmare, muddled logic included. I still haven't seen Deep Red or Inferno, but I will soon via Netflix. _________________ Michael Scrutchin
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the night watchman Studio Exec
Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 1373 Location: Dark, run-down shack by the graveyard.
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Posted: 09.22.2003 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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The Third M?n wrote: | Are you basically saying that the lack of coherence and explanation may prove a bit frustrating for some viewers? |
Mmm... no. I'm saying that the lack of coherence and explanation in Susperia smacks of neglectful filmmaking. To me, anyway. It's basically the same problem I have with Lucio Fulci movies. Michael brought up Lynch and Bava (I haven't seen any movies by Tomaselli yet), but I think these two are much more capable of creating a dreamlike sense in their films than Argento is in his. Argento's stuff often strikes me as muddled, stagy, and self-indulgent. Which isn't to say I don't like his movies, or that I don't like Susperia. But all of them are pretty far down on my list of favorite horror movies. They just don't click with me very well. _________________ "If you're talking about censorship, and what things should be shown and what things shouldn't be shown, I've said that as an artist you have no social responsibility whatsoever."
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The Third M?n Studio Exec
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Posted: 09.22.2003 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Cool, then. I'll make sure to post in what I thought of it once I see it. Anyone seen Tenebre? I'm thinking of buying that one, too. |
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the night watchman Studio Exec
Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 1373 Location: Dark, run-down shack by the graveyard.
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Posted: 09.22.2003 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, Tenebre's a pretty good giallo. Reminds me of De Palma's stuff, especially Sisters and Raising Cain. _________________ "If you're talking about censorship, and what things should be shown and what things shouldn't be shown, I've said that as an artist you have no social responsibility whatsoever."
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matt header Studio Exec
Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 623 Location: Milwaukee, WI
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Posted: 09.22.2003 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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I watched "Tenebre" shortly after watching "Suspiria"; it can't compare. "Tenebre" does have a few virtuoso sequences and shots that are very Argento-style - one swooping tracking shot climbing over an entire building included - but even by Argento's standards it's nonsensical and silly. (I agree, night watchman, about the rampant illogic in "Suspiria," but it's even more frustrating in "Tenbre.") Most of all, it's not very scary (gory yes, scary no). I also have a problem with the gratuitous sex and nudity Argento throws in; for some reason I don't have a problem with the extreme gore, but seeing useless shots of lesbianism and promiscuous loud sex isn't quite what I had in mind. (I have to be watching Cinemax late at night to be in that sort of mood....) |
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matt header Studio Exec
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Posted: 09.22.2003 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm...looks like we differ on this one, night watchman. I consider "Suspiria" extremely superior. |
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