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Mark Dujsik
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 Posted: 09.15.2003 4:11 am Post subject: Cabin Fever and Eli Roth interview |
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I hated Cabin Fever, and after watching it, I wondered who in the hell was responsible for such a mess. Then I read this interview at Salon.com with director Eli Roth, and I think it made me hate the movie even more. His ideas about filmmaking are, well... I'll let you read it and see for yourself:
"Blood, guts, death, mayhem and nudity"
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the night watchman
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| Posted: 09.15.2003 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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I just got back from seeing Cabin Fever and I?m a little disappointed. I didn?t dislike it, necessarily, but it?s being marketed as a ?straight? horror movie when it?s really a comedy with blood and screaming -- no scares or suspense, and the characters are just a skosh more affable than counselors at Camp Crystal Lake. I haven?t read the interview yet, but I will.
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the night watchman
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Okay, I read it. What made you hate Cabin Fever more after the interview, other that the fact the Roth claims it's a scary movie when it isn't? I basically agree with his assessments of the state of the horror genre after the last half of the 80s and the bulk of the 90s. Hell, I was there.
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Michael Scrutchin
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| Posted: 09.16.2003 12:37 am Post subject: |
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I, too, agree with a lot of Roth's thoughts on horror. I stumbled across a better, more in-depth interview with him somewhere online, but I can't find it now. I like Cabin Fever and think it's a fun movie, but with all the enthusiastic hype I was more than a bit disappointed. Much of the humor, I think, is severely misguided, but some of it works. It's not scary or horrifying the way I'd hoped, but it definitely made me squirm, which counts for something. Eli Roth has talent, but I hope he has a better, perhaps more serious, horror film in him yet.
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Mark Dujsik
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| Posted: 09.16.2003 12:44 am Post subject: |
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| the night watchman wrote: | | Okay, I read it. What made you hate Cabin Fever more after the interview, other that the fact the Roth claims it's a scary movie when it isn't? I basically agree with his assessments of the state of the horror genre after the last half of the 80s and the bulk of the 90s. Hell, I was there. |
I agree with him on the state of horror films as well, but it's just his general attitude toward filmmaking that really dug under my skin.
And even with his reference to Maxim-esque pictorials, his comments on actresses who won't do nudity really rubbed me the wrong way:
"I'd come in and meet with these actresses and they'd be stunning and gorgeous and they could act and were perfect for the part and they'd say, 'But I won't do the nudity. It's exploitation.' They've just heard this term from their managers and don't understand it."
He later goes on to imply that nudity is a "requirement" of the horror genre, which is--as Roth would probably say--f***ing bulls***. He says, "The slasher films killed horror," but that mindset of gratuitous nudity being a staple comes from the slasher subgenre.
I'm amused that this ended up coming out the same year as the infinitely superior 28 Days Later--a film that reassured me of the potential of the horror genre--and even more amused when he criticizes Danny Boyle: "Even movies like '28 Days Later,' you will not find a single interview where [director Danny Boyle] calls it a horror film -- they call it a 'viral thriller'!" Amazingly, I did a quick web search, and the only time I found a reference to 28 Days Later as a "viral thriller" was in an interview with Roth.
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the night watchman
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I concede, Mark, good points; Roth does say some lunk-headed things. I am happy, however, to see someone coming out and saying that slasher films killed horror. I completely agree, but most "horror fans" under the age of 17 believe horror began with Friday the 13th. God [sic.] forbid they can sit through Halloween without fidgeting, or have even bothered to watch Bride of Frankenstein.
Like Michael said, I hope Roth chooses a more "straight-faced" script for his next project. I think I would have really enjoyed Cabin Fever much more if I had picked it off the shelf at the video store and slapped it into the player with no expectations.
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Michael Scrutchin
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Mark, I agree with you regarding his comments about nudity being a "requirement" for actresses and the horror genre. He sounds like a typical slasher-film fanboy in that regard.
| Quote: | | I'm amused that this ended up coming out the same year as the infinitely superior 28 Days Later--a film that reassured me of the potential of the horror genre--and even more amused when he criticizes Danny Boyle: "Even movies like '28 Days Later,' you will not find a single interview where [director Danny Boyle] calls it a horror film -- they call it a 'viral thriller'!" Amazingly, I did a quick web search, and the only time I found a reference to 28 Days Later as a "viral thriller" was in an interview with Roth. |
Eli Roth actually really enjoyed/admired 28 Days Later, citing it a "damn good" movie in that other interview I read. In a recent Fangoria article, Danny Boyle says he wouldn't classify 28 Days Later as a horror film. Quoted from Fangoria #223, June:
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"There are certain horrific things in it," he admits. "There's a killing fury within it that is very violent, and some very unpleasant moments, but it's not a horror film as such. There are ingredients in it that are horror, that are 'zombie' if you like, but I don't think it's a zombie film, and I don't want it to be thought of that way because zombie fans will be deeply disappointed, since it's not that kind of movie."
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No mention of the phrase "viral thriller," though.
And, yes, 28 Days Later is far superior to Cabin Fever. I think 28 Days Later, May, and Bubba Ho-tep are the three best horror films to see a U.S. theatrical release this year so far. Not surprisingly, these are all films that are much more than traditional horror fare and some people would even hesitate to label as horror in the first place. I, personally, have a pretty broad definition of horror.
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Danny Baldwin
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Bubba Ho-Tep is coming to a theatre about 45 minutes away from me and Bruce Campell will be doing some interviews; I should go.
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Michael Scrutchin
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| Danny Baldwin wrote: | | Bubba Ho-Tep is coming to a theatre about 45 minutes away from me and Bruce Campell will be doing some interviews; I should go. |
If Bruce Campbell is going to be there to introduce the film, don't miss it (he's a riot and you'll have a wonderful time even if you don't love the film). If he's not gonna introduce it, I'd still recommend going, as there's no telling when Bubba Ho-tep will finally wind up on video/DVD (I wouldn't expect it any sooner than mid-2004).
Just so everyone knows, the Bubba release dates announced so far:
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September 19 - SEATTLE - Landmark's Varsity Theater
September 19 - PORTLAND - Cinema 21 Theater
September 26 - NEW YORK CITY - Angelika Film Center
October 3 - LOS ANGELES - Landmark's Nuart Theater/ Irvine - University 6
October 3 - SAN DIEGO - Landmark's Ken Theater
October 10 - SAN FRANCISCO - The Castro Theater
October 10 - BERKELEY - Landmark's California Theater
October 10 - SANTA ROSA - Roxy 14 Theater
October 17 - CHICAGO - Landmark's Century Centre Cinema
October 17 - SANTA CRUZ - Nickelodeon Theater
October 17 - DETROIT - Landmark's Main Art Theater
October 24 - AUSTIN - The Alamo Drafthouse Theater
November 7 - ATLANTA - Landmark's Midtown Art Theater
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More cities/dates may be announced in the future.
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Mark Dujsik
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| Michael B. Scrutchin wrote: | | I think 28 Days Later, May, and Bubba Ho-tep are the three best horror films to see a U.S. theatrical release this year so far. |
I need to rent May. And here's hoping we get a Bubba Ho-tep screener, because I'm fairly sure I won't be able to find it anywhere around here. That listing at the Landmark Century in Chicago would be nice if not for the fact that I'm in Whitewater, Wisconsin. 
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beltmann
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| Posted: 09.16.2003 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| Mark Dujsik wrote: | | And here's hoping we get a Bubba Ho-tep screener, because I'm fairly sure I won't be able to find it anywhere around here. That listing at the Landmark Century in Chicago would be nice if not for the fact that I'm in Whitewater, Wisconsin. |
I had the exact same thought, Mark. Access is a constant source of frustration for me.
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matt header
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| Posted: 09.16.2003 5:42 am Post subject: |
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| I just recently got a job at the Oriental Landmark Theatre in Milwaukee, so if any of you Wisconsinites want an advance screening of some sort, I think we can arrange something........wink wink, nudge nudge, grin grin, say no more. |
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Mark Dujsik
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| matt header wrote: | | I just recently got a job at the Oriental Landmark Theatre in Milwaukee, so if any of you Wisconsinites want an advance screening of some sort, I think we can arrange something........wink wink, nudge nudge, grin grin, say no more. |
Hmm... 
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beltmann
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| Posted: 09.16.2003 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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| matt header wrote: | | I just recently got a job at the Oriental Landmark Theatre in Milwaukee, so if any of you Wisconsinites want an advance screening of some sort, I think we can arrange something........wink wink, nudge nudge, grin grin, say no more. |
My goodness, I practically keep a cot in a back room... you bet I'm interested.
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beltmann
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| Posted: 09.20.2003 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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| matt header wrote: | | I just recently got a job at the Oriental Landmark Theatre in Milwaukee, so if any of you Wisconsinites want an advance screening of some sort, I think we can arrange something........wink wink, nudge nudge, grin grin, say no more. |
Hey Matt,
I saw Thirteen today at the Oriental (and then booked over to the Downer for Step Into Liquid). I was hoping to catch you at work, but no luck! What are your typical hours? Tickets? Concessions? Projection?
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