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The Dentist · Grip Joined: 09 Oct 2003 Posts: 9 Location: Melbourne

Man Bites Dog (French film - don't have the year sorry) is another without a doubt. Quite confronting in parts and well shot. B & W.
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Dr Giggles · Camera Operator Joined: 09 Oct 2003 Posts: 84

Dr Giggles · Camera Operator Joined: 09 Oct 2003 Posts: 84

P.S Great review Michael, spot on.
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Danny Baldwin · Posted: 12.05.2004 6:16 am Post subject:

Watching the director's cut of Dawn of the Dead, I was reminded instantly of this thread. I thought it was actually called "Violence in Film", but I guess it applies to this. I really liked the theatrical cut of the movie, but this unrated version has nine extra minutes, which are packed full of senseless violence, pretty much. My opinion has entirely changed on the movie, and, based on nine minutes of material. I guess that speaks for how much violence can impact a movie, positive or negative. I wonder if I'd still immensely enjoy the theatrical cut; that'd be interesting to test.
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the night watchman · Posted: 12.05.2004 7:40 pm Post subject:

Are you talking about Romero's or the 2004 remake? I don't remember that much more violence in Romero's extended cut.
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the night watchman · Posted: 12.05.2004 7:42 pm Post subject:

Kadaver · Grip Joined: 05 Dec 2004 Posts: 8

I agree with a lot of the movies mentioned already, esp. with Gaspar Noe's IRREVERSIBLE, which I think is one of the deepest, most important films that can depict violence in years. Not only does it function on so many layers, but every time that I've seen it, its power managed to stay with me, only getting more unbearable to watch it when you notice more of the subtleties and details that the characters make. It's a disturbing Kubrickian masterpiece that works as a beautiful film, as well.

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the night watchman · Posted: 12.05.2004 11:37 pm Post subject:

I like Irreversible a lot too. I don?t agree with the charge sometimes directed at it regarding its alleged gratuitous misanthropy (not to mention misogyny, which strikes me as a rather knee-jerk reaction, since it's the men the movie casts a rather jaundice eye toward). In fact, ultimately, I find it expresses hope in the idea of free will in the face of an indifferent universe.
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Danny Baldwin · Posted: 12.06.2004 1:19 am Post subject:

the night watchman · Posted: 12.06.2004 1:44 am Post subject:

So the additional violence tainted your enjoyment, Danny? Was it just the fact that the level of violence was raised, and the movie couldn't compensate, or was there imagery you found unpalatable?
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Danny Baldwin · Posted: 12.06.2004 2:30 pm Post subject:

beltmann · Posted: 12.06.2004 4:54 pm Post subject:

Monkeypox · Posted: 12.10.2004 1:41 am Post subject:

Hana-bi.
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beltmann · Posted: 12.10.2004 3:49 am Post subject: