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beltmann
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| Danny Baldwin wrote: | | Don't represent organizations that you aren't a part of. As one who has not seen Lizzie, it's impossible for you to be "reformed". |
Where is this hostility coming from? Did you fall off the wagon? Jim, get over to Danny's place, quick!
I have indeed seen The Lizzie McGuire Movie. I saw it in 2003. As a serious student of cinema, I considered it my duty.
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Danny Baldwin
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| Posted: 08.17.2005 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| beltmann wrote: |
I have indeed seen The Lizzie McGuire Movie. I saw it in 2003. As a serious student of cinema, I considered it my duty. |
REALLY?. All this time I thought you hadn't.
Do you have any comments you wrote at the time in your logs?
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beltmann
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| Posted: 08.17.2005 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| the night watchman wrote: | | Sarcastically incompetent? You? Man, every time I read your posts I practically hear the voice of Comic Book Guy from The Simpsons. |
I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
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beltmann
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| Posted: 08.18.2005 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| Danny Baldwin wrote: | | Do you have any comments you wrote at the time in your logs? |
Well, I can tell you that I saw it in between Nowhere in Africa and Sweet Sixteen. This is all I jotted down: "I never saw the TV series, but all the characters here seem transplanted to a more ambitious version of that show. Now promoted into high school, Lizzie travels to Rome on a class trip monitored by her new high school principal. Once there, she gets mistaken for an Italian singing sensation, setting into motion a complicated plot involving romance, sneaking around, betrayal, but mostly loyalty. Realizing I'm not in the least the target audience for this shallow stuff, I suppose I can admit that it's probably slightly better than most similar fare."
Not very insightful, I concede. Just bland plot description... which, come to think of it, perfectly captures its essence.
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beltmann
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| the night watchman wrote: | | beltmann wrote: | | the night watchman wrote: | | I think it may be difficult to appreciate The Evil Dead unless you experienced it for the first time back in the early 80s. The same probably goes for the sequel. I think the influence, good and bad, they've had on movies has sort of diluted their impact, but their style and kineticism was absolutely unique for their time. |
This is an important point... similar to how we should try to transport ourselves back to the Twenties before trying on some Keaton. |
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For the record, I sincerely agreed with your point here. Even though it's impossible to perfectly recreate the mindset of an earlier era, I still think we should do our best when watching older films. It's the only way to approach a work with something like fair play. The Evil Dead movies are good examples--it's unfair to judge them harshly based on what's happened in movies after their initial release. That would be like criticizing Gunga Din for not using CGI for its special effects.
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the night watchman
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| Posted: 08.18.2005 2:12 am Post subject: |
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I think I misconstrued your comment as a swipe because of the way it was phrased and thought, "Jeez, where the hell did that come from," and then, you know, went into AICN fight-or-flight mode.
I used to be pretty active on the JoBlo horror forums, and so many times I'd notice that the younger posters who were only familiar with Scream and IKWYDLS would bash Halloween or TCM, or what have you, simply because it didn't boast a sleek 90s style, have a high enough violence/gore quotent, or a cool soundtrack. I'm not comparing Danny's reaction to theirs necessarily (Danny, doesn't even particularly like horror that much anyway, as I recall), I was just making an observation inspired by it.
| beltmann wrote: | | That would be like criticizing Gunga Din for not using CGI for its special effects. |
Although criticizing it for its inherent racism is another matter. 
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beltmann
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| Posted: 08.18.2005 2:43 am Post subject: |
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| the night watchman wrote: | | I think I misconstrued your comment as a swipe because of the way it was phrased and thought, "Jeez, where the hell did that come from," and then, you know, went into AICN fight-or-flight mode. |
No prob. Sometimes I am guilty of the sarcastic swipe, but rest assured, it's always meant in the most harmless, goodest of natures. Any "meanness" is always tongue-in-cheek, never sincere. Maybe I take it for granted that after all these years you guys will read it that way... but I know Danny understands my rude "fullscreen" comments always start from a loving place!
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the night watchman
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| Posted: 08.18.2005 4:38 am Post subject: |
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| beltmann wrote: | | the most harmless, goodest of natures. |
I now reserve the right to use "goodest" with impunity.
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Danny Baldwin
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| Posted: 08.18.2005 4:50 am Post subject: |
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| beltmann wrote: | | Danny Baldwin wrote: | | Do you have any comments you wrote at the time in your logs? |
Well, I can tell you that I saw it in between Nowhere in Africa and Sweet Sixteen. |
I had to remember that you saw Nowhere in Africa on DVD to be able to keep myself from drooling at the thought that there was a theatre out there that played those three titles together.
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Danny Baldwin
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| Posted: 08.18.2005 4:56 am Post subject: |
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WAIT! LIAR! Think before you post.
| beltmann wrote: | 9/29 ? 10/5
Clearwater (Koontz, 2003)
Nicholas Nickleby (McGrath, 2003)
Versus (Kitamura, 2000)
Better Luck Tomorrow (Lin, 2003)
School of Rock (Linklater, 2003)
Nowhere in Africa (Link, 2001)
Sweet Sixteen (Loach, 2002)
Day of the Dead (Romero, 1985)
Heaven (Tykwer, 2002)
Sick: The Life and Death of Bob Flanagan, Supermasochist (Dick, 1997)
Mad City (Costa-Gavras, 1997)
Of those, I?d highly recommend School of Rock and Sweet Sixteen. I loathed Versus?repetitive, utterly lacking in a unique style; virtually nothing happens but tedious physical injury?and Day of the Dead seemed to betray everything that made the first two entries worthwhile. I haven?t made up my mind about Sick, but I know I was simultaneously appalled and moved. Has anyone else seen it?
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beltmann
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| Posted: 08.18.2005 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| Danny Baldwin wrote: | | WAIT! LIAR! Think before you post. |
Nice try, Encyclopedia Brown. The posted screening log is often inaccurate. The database never is.
In fact, there are several flaws in that post. The first is that Clearwater was viewed the previous week; I remember sitting on it until my review was up. And besides Lizzie, there are two other movies missing: Maid in Manhatten should follow Versus, and How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days should follow Day of the Dead. I can't recall why I skipped those three, but it was probably just an oversight... I usually type titles into the log fairly quickly. I'm sure there have been plenty of others throughout the entire Log.
The database also has brief reactions to all of those posted titles, not just that short paragraph at the end.
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Danny Baldwin
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| Posted: 08.18.2005 5:16 am Post subject: |
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 I wallow in the sorrow of the happiness of the opposition.
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beltmann
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| Posted: 08.18.2005 5:18 am Post subject: |
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And I dance a little jig upon your sorrow.
Michael, can we get an obnoxious dancing emoticon, please?!
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beltmann
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| the night watchman wrote: | | I now reserve the right to use "goodest" with impunity. |
I was hoping you'd appreciate that, and find using it as liberating as I did.
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Danny Baldwin
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| Posted: 08.18.2005 5:40 am Post subject: |
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| beltmann wrote: | And I dance a little jig upon your sorrow.
Michael, can we get an obnoxious dancing emoticon, please?! |
I tried to find one, and couldn't. I did, however, find a forum in which users fought over the appropriateness of a butt-shaking banana emoticon.
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