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Danny Baldwin
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PostPosted: 01.12.2005 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the night watchman wrote:
Oy! Miracle is a notable for me, too, but I forgot to include it. Imagine that; a sports movie as one of my favorites of the year. Who'da thunk?


I'm still a little sad Miracle didn't make my list. It's a close #11.
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PostPosted: 01.12.2005 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You have a boss? I always thought you were the stick-it-to-the-man type, holed up in your ramshackle shed smoking pipes--or whatnot--while churning out beautiful prose. Cool


Ah, that'd be the life, wouldn't it?

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I have a friend who has refused to watch Toy Story since 1995, only because too many people told him to see it. I really don't know what point he's trying to prove, but he's proud of his nine-year hold-out.


You know, the saddest part is that your friend is not only missing a good movie, but he's also missing an even better one: Toy Story 2.
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PostPosted: 01.13.2005 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted a random list on this post before of great movies from the year I remembered off the top of my head. After going over the movies I saw this year a bit more carefully, here it is! My favorites and least favorites of the year.

The Best

1. Hero (dir. Zhang Yimou)

2. Before Sunset (dir. Richard Linklater)

3. The Five Obstructions (dirs. Lars von Trier & Jorgen Leth)

4. Metallica: Some Kind of Monster (dirs. Joe Berlinger & Bruce Sinofsky)

5. Spring Summer Fall Winter...and Spring (dir. Ki-duk Kim)

6. Goodbye, Lenin! (dir. Wolfgang Becker)

7. Coffee and Cigarettes (dir. Jim Jarmusch)

8. The Saddest Music in the World (dir. Guy Maddin)

9. The Brown Bunny (dir. Vincent Gallo)

10. Kill Bill Volume 2 (dir. Quentin Tarantino)

11. Mean Creek (dir. Jacob Aaron Estes)

12. Control Room (dir. Jehane Noujaim)

13. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (dir. Michel Gondry)

14. Time of the Wolf (dir. Michael Haneke)

15. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (dir. Alfonso Cuaron)

16. The Twilight Samurai (dir. Yoji Yamada)

17. Moolade (dir. Ousmane Sembene)

18. The Manchurian Candidate (dir. Jonathan Demme)

The Worst

1. After the Sunset (dir. Brett Ratner)

2. What the Bleep Do We Know? (dirs. William Arntz, Betsy Chasse & Mark Vicente)

3. The Alamo (dir. John Lee Hancock)

4. Yu-Gi-Oh! The Movie (dir. Hatsuki Tsuji)

5. The Passion of the Christ (dir. Mel Gibson)

6. Love Me If You Dare (dir. Yann Samuell)

7. Taxi (dir. Tim Story)

8. The Blind Swordsman: Zatoichi (dir. Takeshi Kitano)

9. The Polar Express (dir. Robert Zemeckis)

10. Enduring Love & The Mother (dir. Roger Michell)

Most Overrated: The Motorcycle Diaries & Kinsey

Most Underrated: Silver City
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PostPosted: 01.14.2005 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We definitely do share movie tastes, Matt, although I'd replace Kinsey with Goodbye, Lenin! on your overrated list. I felt bad composing my list before seeing Time of the Wolf, but it arrived from Netflix today. I'm looking forward to it.

And I understand that some academic congratulations are in order, too!
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PostPosted: 01.14.2005 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose I ought to actually list mine:

1. Before Sunset

2. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

3. Head-On

4. The Corporation and The Yes Men (tie)

5. The Saddest Music in the World

6. Hero and Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring (tie)

7. Death in Gaza

8. The Five Obstructions

9. Moolade

10. Collateral

The Next Fifteen: The Aviator; Dracula: Pages from a Virgin's Diary; The Incredibles; Touching the Void; Spider-Man 2; Sideways; Yossi & Jagger; Broken Wings; Osama; Springtime in a Small Town; Shaun of the Dead; Merci!; Tokyo Godfathers; We Don't Live Here Anymore; Kinsey.

Guilty Pleasures: I, Robot; Jersey Girl; The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra; Saved!; Secret Window.

Most Overrated: Control Room; Jap?n; Since Otar Left; The Story of the Weeping Camel; Tarnation.

The Ten Worst: Anatomy of Hell; Eurotrip; The Girl Next Door; I Heart Huckabees; The Ladykillers; Love Me If You Dare; Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow; Soul Plane; 10 on Ten; Twentynine Palms.

A few comments are posted elsewhere.

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PostPosted: 01.14.2005 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beltmann wrote:


I have a friend who has refused to watch Toy Story since 1995, only because too many people told him to see it. I really don't know what point he's trying to prove, but he's proud of his nine-year hold-out.


So, one night several years ago, Reese Witherspoon became the topic of conversation. After some time, I realized that I had never seen a movie with Reese Witherspoon in it. I had uncovered a streak. THINK OF IT, to have never seen a movie with a fairly well-known and well-utilized actor in it. It was truly a beautiful thing. So then it became a rule... I COULD NOT, under any circumstances see a movie with Reese Witherspoon.

Costner's voice telling me a player on a streak has to respect the streak, and I concur.

So I visit an old friend of mine, on his way to prison. A former roommate, his descent continued after I left, while I pulled myself from the abyss. As much of the time we spent as roommates is hazy, you can imagine that there are a few details hidden away in the fuzzy brain parts. Details, like, as he reminded me, I had seen Freeway one night. The fact that I didn't remember it was of little consequence. I had, indeed, seen it, and there were witnesses.

I'm not sure I can express the horror of realizing that a streak had been broken. If you've got one, then by all means keep it.
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PostPosted: 01.14.2005 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing with Miracle was it just enthralled me so much the first time viewing, and I still get goosebumps and am completely sucked in, even after a repeated viewing. I remeber seeing it the same weekend as I saw City of God and just being totally sucked in by Miracle and having a real blah reaction to the other.
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PostPosted: 01.14.2005 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope you like Time of the Wolf, Mr. B. I've seen four films by Michael Haneke now and I think every one is truly fantastic; I'm convinced he's one of the most striking, important directors working today.

I have to say I had little desire to see Miracle when it first came out, but I'll have to pick it up sometime soon; I generally trust you Flipside folks more than most critics, and it's certainly gotten a warm response here on the website.

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Thanks a million! In a matter of ten days I will begin using a Bolex 16mm, a Steenbeck editing machine, and will learn how to put sound onto film! Sound!!! Golly!!!
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PostPosted: 01.14.2005 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matt header wrote:
I have to say I had little desire to see Miracle when it first came out, but I'll have to pick it up sometime soon; I generally trust you Flipside folks more than most critics, and it's certainly gotten a warm response here on the website.


In that case, add my recommendation to the others'. Miracle is a really good film.
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PostPosted: 01.14.2005 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a column I just finished writing for my school newspaper. Let me know what you think:

Best Films of 2004 --

It happens every year. Towards the end of December, an onslaught of critic?s top ten favorite films of the year are released. For the first time in a long while, I actually had a lot of trouble creating my top ten list for 2004. There were so many great films released in 2004, and I still have over 30 that I want to see. I?d go as far to say that 2004 is the best year in film since I?ve been born (1987). With that said I figure I will break tradition and do a top 11 list for 2004. Enjoy.

11. Collateral (Mann) ? A terrific, documentary-style crime noir from Michael Mann. Los Angeles never looked better, thanks to Mann?s beautiful soft-focus photography. Jamie Foxx steals the show, and Tom Cruise goes against type, and makes a surprisingly effective villain.

10. The Motorcycle Diaries (Salles) ? Mark my words: Gael Garcia Bernal is going to be huge. For my money, he?s the most talented young actor right now. His portrayal of Ernesto ?Che? Guevara is believable and is one of the best performances of the year. The cinematography Eric Gautier is the best I?ve seen this year. Regardless of your feelings of Guevara, this is ultimately a film about friendship and humanity, not politics.

09. The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou (Anderson) ? I?m not a big Wes Anderson fan. In fact, the only other Anderson film I really like is The Royal Tenenbaums, and even that film has its flaws. Combining excellent set design with a great soundtrack and fleshed-out characters (finally, Wes!) The Life Aquatic is one of the most enjoyable films of the year.

08. The Aviator (Scorsese) ? Although I don?t think Gangs of New York is nearly as bad as people say, everyone can admit Scorsese had been in a slump since Goodfellas. The Aviator is great return to form for Scorsese, and a great look at obsession and the eccentric nature of Howard Hughes. Leonardo DiCaprio proves he really has acting chops; his portrayal of Howard Hughes is damn near brilliant. Cate Blanchett is great as Kate Hepburn, as well. While the film is a tad overlong, Scorsese proves he?s still got it.

07. Fahrenheit 9/11 (Moore) ? Despite political persuasion, Moore?s documentary is one of the most entertaining, thoughtful, and exciting films of the year. A real landmark movie and one I?ll be revisiting for years to come.

06. Sideways (Payne) ? What?s to say about this film that?s already been said? It?s a wonderful, intelligent comedy about the value of friendship and love. There?s such chemistry between Thomas Hayden-Church and Paul Giamatti, it?s a shame the academy doesn?t give awards to duos.

05. Shaun of the Dead (Wright) ? A loving tribute to George Romero and the horror genre. This film is a dream come true for me, with one of the best ensemble casts of the year. It?s scary, funny, romantic, and dramatic all at the same time and it doesn?t come off as ridiculous whatsoever.

04. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Gondry) ? Simply put, visually and thematically, this is a beautiful film. It?s a surreal look at love and memories, and one of the most unforgettable (pardon the bad pun) films of the year.

03. Ray (Hackford) ? Jamie Foxx turns in the best performance of the year. He just melts into the role of Ray Charles, you don?t even recognize him. This is truly a once in a lifetime role for Foxx. This film moved me to tears, and that hardly ever happens with me. A fitting tribute to one of the best musicians ever.

02. Kill Bill: Volume 2 (Tarantino) ? Tarantino blends great, well-developed characters with amazing action scenes. David Carradine turns in one of the best performances in any Tarantino film. Bill is a really awful person, but by the end of the film, he?s got your sympathy. That?s real filmmaking for you.

01. Baadsssss! (Van Peebles) ? Not just the best film of the year, but one of the best films I?ve ever seen. It?s a funny, soulful, lyric look at what I consider to be the second most important film ever made, Sweet Sweetback?s Baadasssss Song! (Citizen Kane is the first, by the way). Whatever you have to do to see this, do so. Oh, and thank me.

Worst: Saw & The Butterfly Effect. Rancid, inept, and ridiculous.

Films I missed, but wanted to see: 2046, Hotel Rwanda, Million Dollar Baby, Mooladde, Code 46, Haute Tension, Undertow, I?m Not Scared, I?ll Sleep When I?m Dead, Bad Education, Mean Creek, The Five Obstructions, A Very Long Engagment, Twilight Samurai.
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PostPosted: 01.14.2005 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good list. I liked Baadasssss! quite a bit, but wasn't as blown away by it as mush as some were. Still, there's more than enought reasons to recommend it, especially if you're interested in the filmmaking process.

I agree with your assessment about the craftsmanship and entertainment value of Fahrenheit 9/11, and I think it soars when focuses its attention on the toll endured by the families of lost soldiers. Now, if only Moore would have included a little more substance to his conspiracy theory...

I'm looking forward to Haute Tension, too. I hope it lives up to the hype it's been getting.
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PostPosted: 01.19.2005 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Revamped the list after seeing a bunch of films theatrically this weekend. Here goes...

BAADASSSSS!

KILL BILL: VOL. 2

RAY

ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND

HOTEL RWANDA

BAD EDUCATION

SHAUN OF THE DEAD

SIDEWAYS

FAHRENHEIT 9/11

MILLION DOLLAR BABY

THE AVIATOR

THE LIFE AQUATIC WITH STEVE ZISSOU

THE MOTORCYCLE DIARIES

COLLATERAL

A VERY LONG ENGAGEMENT
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PostPosted: 01.29.2005 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted my list today:

Mark's 10 Best Films of 2004
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PostPosted: 01.29.2005 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See, Beltmann! Somebody else digs THE GIRL NEXT DOOR enough to put it on their list!
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PostPosted: 01.29.2005 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danny Baldwin wrote:
See, Beltmann! Somebody else digs THE GIRL NEXT DOOR enough to put it on their list!


Yeah, I cry a little inside when I see it on people's worst of the year list.
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